Agility Increases attack power with melee weapons by 1 and ranged weapons by 2 Increases your crit chance by 0.0189% (1% crit per 52.91 Agility) Increases Armor by 2 and Dodge by 0,0377% (1% dodge per 26.5 Agility)
Strength Increases attack power with melee weapons by 1.
Stamina Increases health points by 10 per point.
Intellect Increases mana points by 15 per point and the rate at which weapon skills improve.
Spirit Increases health & mana regeneration rates.
The stat values below will differentiate depending on your current stats, talents and target defensive stats so because of that I've made 4 examples that you can use. The examples are all specced as 20/31/00 and are fully buffed except for world buffs and shaman/paladin buffs. The gear can be viewed in the spreadsheet linked in the BIS section. The target is a lvl 63 dragonkin mob type with 5 sunder armor debuffs.
Patch 1.5 BIS (T1)
Patch 1.9 BIS (T2)
Patch 1.9 BIS (R13)
Patch 1.12 BIS (T3 + R12 Gloves)
I've used the hunter simulator spreadsheet linked in the "Links & Downloads" section to get these results, using the exact same method as Surelynotdhorn did
This BIS list is based on Crestfall's item progression which isn't completely like retail vanilla, so because of that I've included some items to the earlier patches (Almost only pre 1.5) that other private servers tend to release before their original release date because most likely it'll be the same for Crestfall (Not 100% confirmed yet, I will update whenever I know more).
These are the items which has been included for patches prior to their original release (The patches in parentheses are their original release date):
Epic PvP gear will not be considered because it's extremely time consuming to get and not everyone have the time needed to be able to grind it however the post-rework PvP set is BIS until Naxxramas.
|Head||[Mask of the Unforgiven]||+8 Agility||Stratholme Undead||The Unforgiven|
|Neck||[Mark of Fordring]||Eastern Plaguelands||Quest|
|Shoulders||[Truestrike Shoulders]||+5 Resist||Upper Blackrock Spire||Pyroguard Emberseer|
|Back||[Cape of the Black Baron]||+3 Agility||Stratholme Undead||Baron Rivendare|
|Chest||[Beaststalker's Tunic]||+4 Stats||Upper Blackrock Spire||General Drakkisath|
|Wrists||[Beaststalker's Bindings]||+1 Agility||Stratholme||Trash mobs (BoE)|
|Hands||[Devilsaur Gauntlets]||+7 Agility||Leatherworking||Crafted|
|Waist||[Beaststalker's Belt]||Blackrock Spire||Trash Mobs (BoE)|
|Legs||[Devilsaur Leggings]||+8 Agility||Leatherworking||Crafted|
|Feet||[Beaststalker's Boots]||+7 Agility||Stratholme Undead||Nerub'enkan|
|Ring 1||[Masons Fraternity Ring]||Zul'Farrak||Quest|
|Ring 2||[Painweaver Band]||Upper Blackrock Spire||General Drakkisath|
|Trinket 1||[Blackhand's Breadth]||Badlands||Quest|
|Trinket 2||[Rune of the Guard Captain]||Hinterlands||Quest|
|Swap Trinket||[Devilsaur Eye]||Azshara||Quest|
|Main Hand||[Peacemaker]||+ 9 Intellect||Stratholme Undead||Magistrate Barthilas|
|Ranged||[Carapace Spine Crossbow]||+7 Damage||Stratholme Undead||Nerub'enkan|
|Quiver||[Ribbly's Quiver]||Blackrock Depths||Ribbly Screwspigot|
|Arrows||[Thorium Headed Arrow]||Engineering||Crafted|
Link to Alliance BIS list spreadsheet (Patch 1.1 - 1.12)
Let's face it, it's not expensive to raid as a hunter since we have feign death to save our buffs if the raid wipes, so there's no reason to go cheap on consumables. Here's all the consumables & buffs that are useful to hunters. (Class buffs not included)
This section will be covering all relevant information about the races that can be played as a Hunter.
Horde PvE race ranking:
Horde PvP race ranking:
Alliance PvE race ranking:
Alliance PvP race ranking:
PvE: Use this spec if you're at 8 hit or below. You can swap talent points from Surefooted to Improved Aspect of the Hawk if you're only missing 1-2% hit.
https://classicdb.ch/?talent#ce0M0xxZViohtht Use this spec if you're at 9 hit or above
PvP: For PvP it's a bit of a personal preference, however these are the ones I can recommend
I highly recommend moving the points from Improved Wing Clip into Entrapment if you're going to play premade BG's as it will benefit you a lot more.
Leveling: For leveling this is the spec I would recommend https://classicdb.ch/?talent#ca0GzgxRptVohx I didn't put points into Spirit Bond because this talent will give the hunter threat every time it heals so if your pet body pulls a mob, the Hunter will get aggro whenever the talent heals.
PvE 00/21/30 vs 20/31/00 when above 500 agility: On paper the 20/31/00 spec seems to be doing a lot better however in reality there will be some fights where you won't be able to utilize your pets' DPS properly as well as other situational stuff in which case the 00/21/30 spec could potentially be better even when considering the DPS Trueshot Aura provides for your group when using the 20/31/00 spec. I'm gonna have to test this once I get the gear requirements on Crestfall to be able to confirm anything.
Keep in mind that mentioning results from other servers will not prove anything since talent and ability formulas etc could've been completely different on the other server.
Short answer: Lupos for PvE, Broken Tooth for PvP.
PVE: Lupos is the best PvE pet because it does Shadow Damage instead of Physical Damage, thus ignoring armor and will benefit from +Shadow Damage debuffs such as Curse of Shadows, Improved Shadow Bolt and Shadow Weaving. After patch 1.9 you should instead be using Deathmaw if you want a wolf or Broken Tooth if you want a cat because Lupos will no longer be doing Shadow Damage after that patch.
Something you often will hear people say about Lupos is that "it will lower your raids DPS because it consumes Warlock's Improved Shadow Bolt debuffs" however that is completely nonsense even if Lupos truly should be consuming ISB (I haven't seen a single proof of Lupos consuming ISB in retail vanilla so please share if you have proof) due to various reasons:
"Threat cap" Warlocks are able to do insane amounts of DPS however with insane amounts of DPS comes insane amounts of threat. This is something that Warlocks have no way of dealing with, instead they're forced into stop DPS'ing so that the tanks can build a bigger threat lead. Hunters do not have this issue because we're not able to do anywhere near as much DPS/threat as a Warlock and because we can Feign Death every 30 seconds to wipe our threat. Even if Warlocks didn't utilize ISB at all they would still have threat issues if they go all in on DPS. So if they were to utilize ISB it would only make them "threat capped" faster, thus sharing ISB with Hunters will be far more effective for the raid. Not to mention that tanks occasionally will die/fail on boss mechanics or other situational events which will tighten the Warlocks threat cap even further. So in reality Warlocks wont be getting any additional DPS from ISB unless they're fighting a boss where they can't get aggro (Ragnaros, Ebonroc and Flamegore etc). This might only be legit for Horde Warlocks due to them not being able to benefit from Blessing of Salvation like Alliance Warlocks can. This is also the sole reason as to why Alliance Warlocks are doing so much more DPS on legacy-logs.com and realmplayers.com. Debuff overlapping If Hunters aren't using Lupos then Warlocks and Shadow Priest's Mind Blast will be the only classes who are able to utilize ISB, thus being much more likely to overlap ISB stacks and make them go to waste. ISB isn't the only debuff which Lupos can utilize There's 3 debuffs that Lupos can utilize; Improved Shadow Bolt, Curse of Shadow and Shadow Weaving so by using Lupos it will make all of these debuffs more effective. If Lupos is being fully buffed and it's target has all of these debuffs then it is able to do 180-200 DPS on it's own which is absolutely insane.
PVP: Broken Tooth is the best PvP pet, and potentially the best PvE pet after patch 1.9. The reason why Broken Tooth is the best PvP pet is because it's the only cat that is able to do 1 attack per sec, which is the fastest you can get. The fast attack speed is very useful in PvP as it makes it nearly impossible for casters to get a spell off because of the cast time push back from Broken Tooth's melee attacks. There's only 2 other pets in the game which has similar attack speed and that is the ZG bat's, however since they're bats they cannot learn Prowl and Claw which both are great abilities in PvP and bats also does 4% less damage from auto attacks.
When Lupos no longer does Shadow Damage (post patch 1.9), then Broken Tooth can potentially be the superior pet to use in PvE depending on how good you are at pet micro managing. Broken Tooth (Cats) do not have Furious Howl like Wolfs do which means you can no longer benefit from having your pet by your side just to buff you with Furious Howl, so you'll need to be great at micro managing your pet and make sure it doesn't die as well as not fuck up your own rotation. If you're not capable of that, then Broken Tooth will not be a DPS boost.
Leveling: Use any cat for leveling, it doesn't matter which one because they're all be normalized, i.e. all pets of the same pet family does similar DPS regardless of attack speed (unless they're buffed, which in that case fast attack speed pets does more DPS). Also make sure to tame a new cat every now and then so you can get new pet ability ranks. Use the hunter pet beastiary linked in the "Informative Hunter Links" section to figure out which pets you should tame to get new pet ability ranks.
Leveling: Assuming you're using a Cat for leveling which I highly recommend, then this is the priority of which you should be teaching your pet it's abilities.
Auto-shot->Aimed Shot->Auto-shot->Multi-Shot->Auto-shot->Repeat See the pattern? Always use Aimed Shot immediately after you've fired an Auto-shot, weave Multi-Shot in between Auto-shots.
There's 2 rotations that you should know of. These are known as the "Clipped" and the "Full" rotation.
Every rotation cycle consists roughly of: 1 Aimed Shot 1 Multi-Shot x Auto Shot
With most weapons, you'll find that Aimed Shot finishes cooldown and Auto Shot fired ~1 sec ago. This makes you choose between:
(Clipped) Use Aimed Shot right when its cooldown is finished.
(Full) Delay Aimed Shot until after your next Auto Shot.
(Clipped) makes you lose an Auto Shot, but your cycle time is shorter than in B.
(Full) adds an Auto Shot, but extends your cycle time.
This is important because the cooldown of Aimed Shot is 6 seconds, casting time is 3 seconds. During casting, Auto Shot cools down. This means that basically every weapon will get a free Auto Shot after Aimed Shot. The free Auto Shot comes after a delay of about 0.5 seconds after Aimed Shot is fired, regardless of weapon speed. During the casting of Aimed Shot, no Auto Shots can be fired.
This list will tell you what rotation you should use for all end game weapons, the list is also sorted from best to worst:
You can read a far more in depth explanation of clipped vs full rotation here and here
They're not. Performing them perfectly is practically impossible, and it's harder with some weapons. However, getting as close as possible will be the most damaging thing you can do. Thus, the calculations shows the weapon with highest damage potential, and also how to deal the most damage with it. It's up to you to maximize the potential. Practice, focus, and knowing the rhythm of your weapon helps a lot; you're always able to improve. Additionally, a timer for your Auto Shots will help you a lot. Personally, I use YAHT.
Clipped cycles are the easiest to use, since you can basically spam Aimed Shot and Multi-Shot, and the cooldowns will take care of the rest. Remember that latency might affect this a bit, making Aimed Shot ready just before Auto Shot fires (making you do a sub-optimal cycle). Spamming is rarely a good idea; paying attention is.
Often you'll hear people claiming cycles are useless because of reasons like lag, human reaction, etc. These settings vary from person to person; hunter A might have perfect conditions, performing at almost 100% of what he's capable of, while hunter B might be experiencing lag, talking on the phone and feeding his parrot - of course he'll perform worse. However, comparing the different weapons, using optimal conditions for everything is the fairest comparison. Although this has no influence on a weapon's damage potential, if you know you suffer from lag or slow reaction times, take it into consideration when looking at what I write.
Eventually your Aimed Shot will catch up to your Multi-Shot due to Aimed Shot having "9 sec CD" (6 CD + ~3 sec cast time) and Multi-Shot having a 10 sec CD. When this happens then using Aimed Shot first will yield the most DPS, unless:
Trinkets: You should activate your swap trinket just as you start DPSing the boss and when the trinket effect wears off then you swap to your static trinket immediately.
Rapid Fire/Berserking: Usually you want to use Rapid Fire/Berserking together with your trinket on your opener unless you need to save your cooldowns for a specific boss mechanic. However using Rapid Fire/Berserking early has the added benefit of you being able to use them multiple times during an encounter depending on the fight duration. Do not save Rapid Fire/Berserking for Aspect of the Hawk procs since there's literally no reason in doing so when there's only a 5% proc chance. If you're lucky to get a hawk proc while all your other cooldowns are active then make sure you watch your threat so you don't over aggro.
This addon gives you an auto shot timer which is crucial if you want to maximize your DPS. It also comes with a Tranquilizing Shot announcer which can be toggle on and off.
The white bar is the "cooldown" time of your auto shot The red bar is the draw time of your auto shot
Download Link: https://github.com/Aviana/YaHT
This addon lets you queue trinkets to auto swap for whenever you get out of combat (Feign Death) and is a must have addon if you want to maximize your DPS.
Have an activate trinket equipped at the start of an encounter, use it on your opener and then queue a static trinket by hovering TrinketMenu and choose a static trinket - after the activate trinket's buff expires you feign death and the addon will auto equip the static trinket that you selected.
Configuration: /trinketmenu options
Download Link: https://github.com/satan666/TrinketMenu-Fix
This addon makes it easier for you to track your trinket duration, debuff durations, procs, personal CC duration and boss frenzy timer it also makes your cast bar track aimed shot. Every feature can be enabled/disabled through the in game settings.
Configuration: /sht menu
Download Link: http://addons.us.to/addon/shuntertimers
This addon accelerates key bindings so that they are activated by key press rather than key release. This allows you to activate your abilities faster than you could otherwise.
there's no visual or in game configurations options for this addon.
This addon is the vanilla version of "WeakAuras" which makes it possible to track every aura/ability/trinket in the game.
Examples of what to track: Aspect of the Hawk procs Rapid Fire duration Trinket(s) duration Important boss debuffs such as Baron Geddon's Living Bomb, Vaelastrasz's Burning Adrenaline.
Download Link: https://github.com/Geigerkind/ModifiedPowerAuras
This addon makes it possible for you to see your health while you're in feign death.
Download Link: http://addons.us.to/addon/simplefeignhealth
This macro makes it so your auto shot no longer can be accidentally toggled off.
it WILL NOT WORK properly if this line doesn't correspond with your Auto Shot hotkey: IsAutoRepeatAction(3) If your Auto Shot ability is placed on hotkey 3, that means it should be (3) in the macro. To figure out what hotkey your Auto Shot is on, refer to this image http://i.imgur.com/VGArn.jpg and change it accordingly within the macro.
/run if not IsAutoRepeatAction(3) then CastSpellByName("Auto Shot") end
This macro will prevent your pet from breaking Scatter Shot CC. If you use the Scatter Shot macro on target A and your pet is attacking target B, your pet will continue to attack target B. If you use the Scatter Shot macro on target A and your pet is attacking target A, your pet will go passive so it doesn't break Scatter Shot CC.
/script if UnitExists("pettarget") and UnitIsUnit("target", "pettarget") then PetPassiveMode(); else end /cast Scatter Shot
This macro will prevent you from using feign death if you're already out of combat but if you're in combat it will feign death first and then trap if pressed twice. Simply change the first line of the macro to whatever trap you want it for.
/cast Immolation Trap /script if UnitAffectingCombat("player") then CastSpellByName("Feign Death") end
This macro will prevent you from using feign death if you're already out of combat but if you're in combat it will feign death first and then trap if pressed twice.
In addition to the other trap macro, this one will put your pet on passive to prevent breaking CC.
/cast Freezing Trap /script if UnitAffectingCombat("player") then CastSpellByName("Feign Death") end /script PetPassiveMode()
This macro will use Revive Pet if your pet is dead and Mend Pet if your pet is alive and call your pet if it's missing.
/run local c=CastSpellByName if UnitExists("pet")then if UnitHealth("pet")==0 then c("Revive Pet")else c("Mend Pet")end else c("Call Pet") end
This is just a basic macro to lump all of your offensive melee skills onto one bind. Usually I'm not a fan of "lazy macros" however this one only applies to proc melee attacks that NEEDS to be used while they can so this one cannot fuck you over unlike the typical lazy macros you'll see.
/cast Raptor Strike /cast Counterattack /cast Mongoose Bite
This is a fall-through macro for Wing Clip. If you happen to be super low on mana for some reason and can't use maximum rank Wing Clip, a lower rank will be used instead. Counterattack is a priority over all ranks of Wing Clip.
/run if 1==0 then CastSpellByName("Wing Clip");end /cast Counterattack(Rank 1) /cast Wing Clip /cast Wing Clip(Rank 2) /cast Wing Clip(Rank 1)
This macro will use Track Beasts if you hold down CTRL and press the hotkey you bound it to, Track Humanoids if you hold down SHIFT + press hotkey and Track Hidden if no modifiers are held down when pressing the hotkey.
These are the only important tracking abilities that you should have bound, the rest you can leave in your spell book. Track Beasts is useful to track down Druid flag carriers in BGs, Track Humanoids to track down players, and Track Hidden to increase your stealth detection.
/script c=CastSpellByName if IsControlKeyDown() then c("Track Beasts"); else if IsShiftKeyDown() then c("Track Humanoids"); else c("Track Hidden");end;end
This macro will use Viper Sting if the target is a mana class, if not then it'll use Scorpid Sting instead.
/script if UnitPowerType(“target”)==0 then CastSpellByName(“Viper Sting”) else CastSpellByName(“Scorpid Sting”); end
First of all, this macro will require you to have 2 ranged weapons, 1 equipped and 1 in bag slot 1.
All this macro does is to equip the ranged weapon which is in bag slot 1, this will be useful versus Nefarian because of the hunter class call mechanic that will break our current equipped weapon, however we have no way of knowing if its gonna be our class call or others. So switching to a secondary ranged weapon before the class call timer hits will put us out of risk for our main weapon to break, meanwhile were still able to DPS.
/script SpellStopCasting() /run local p,s="player",18 if GetInventoryItemLink(p,s)then PickupContainerItem(0,1)EquipCursorItem(s)end
Horde BIS List Spreadsheet Patch 1.1 - 1.12 [LINK] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aI87ElvaGI82BSjgs4zUd0QCVGY4BUh3Ymi85lY66N4/pubhtml#
Alliance BIS List Spreadsheet Patch 1.1 - 1.12 [LINK] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gJT3mKYr5ru2VOvwb1EMf43BjSx52yZdJiHVZGi8J1o/pubhtml
Hunter Damage Cycles Breakdown 1.0 [LINK] http://web.archive.org/web/20150105025846/http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic/6609-hunter-damage-cycles-breakdown-nerubian-slavemaker-update/
Hunter Damage Cycles Breakdown 2.0 [LINK] http://web.archive.org/web/20150301164903/http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic/8267-hunter-damage-cycles-breakdown
TKA Something - A Hunter Site From Retail Vanilla [LINK] http://web.archive.org/web/20070208055847/http://www.tkasomething.com/roussefaq.php
Consumables List [LINK] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MsDWgYDIcPE_5nX6pRbea-hW9JQjYikfCDWk16l5V-8/pubhtml#
Hunter Pet Beastiary [LINK] http://www.companioncodex.com/
Hunter Simulator [DOWNLOAD] http://web.archive.org/web/20061230183158/http://www.tkasomething.com/HunterSimulator.zip